3rd Group Exercise

3rd Group Exercise

Translate each paragraph and fable assigned to your group into most accepted Indonesian! Write your answers in the reply section below. Start by providing your group members list, then put your Indonesian version successively. Deadline: Saturday, November 5, 2016, 0:00 a.m.

Group 1

In a classic discussion of the origins of modern science, the historian Herbert Butterfield drew a much-quoted parallel. Such was the impact of the seventeenth-century Scientific Revolution that the only landmark with which it could be compared was the rise of Christianity. In shaping the values of Western societies, science and the Christian religion had each played a preeminent part and made a lasting impression. Exaggerated or not, such comparisons raise an obvious question. What was the relationship between these powerful cultural forces? Were they complementary in their effects, or were they antagonistic? Did religious movements assist the emergence of the scientific movement, or was there a power struggle from the start? Were scientific and religious beliefs constantly at variance, or were they perhaps more commonly integrated, both by clergy and by practicing men of science? How has the relationship changed over time? (from: Brooke, J.H. (2014). Science and Religion: Some Historical Perspectives. Cambridge: Cambridge University Press. p. 1)

The Gardener and His Dog

 A gardener’s dog fell into a deep well, from which his master used to draw water for the plants in his garden with a rope and a bucket. Failing to get the Dog out by means of these, the Gardener went down into the well himself in order to fetch him up. But the Dog thought he had come to make sure of drowning him; so he bit his master as soon as he came within reach, and hurt him a good deal, with the result that he left the Dog to his fate and climbed out of the well, remarking, “It serves me quite right for trying to save so determined a suicide.” ¶¶¶

Moral: Don’t bite the hand that feeds you.


Group 2

The questions raised by the comparisons of the parts played by science and the Christian religion in the formation of Western societies values are easier to formulate than to answer. Since the seventeenth century every generation has taken a view on their importance without, however, reaching any consensus as to how they should be answered. Writing some sixty years ago, the philosopher A. N. Whitehead considered that the future course of history would depend on the decision of his generation as to the proper relations between science and religion – so powerful were the religious symbols through which men and women conferred meaning on their lives, and so powerful the scientific models through which they could manipulate their environment. Because every generation has reappraised the issues, if not always with the same sense of urgency, there has been no shortage of opinion as to what that proper relationship should be. (from: Brooke, J.H. (2014). Science and Religion: Some Historical Perspectives. Cambridge: Cambridge University Press. pp. 1-2)

The Wolf in Sheep’s Clothing

 A wolf had been lurking near a flock of sheep for several days. But so vigilant had been the shepherd in guarding his animals that the Wolf was becoming desperate. Then one day the Wolf found a sheepskin that had been thrown away, quickly he slipped it over his own hide and made his way among the flock of grazing sheep. Even the shepherd was deceived by the rouse, and when night came the Wolf in his disguise was shut up with the sheep in the fold. But that evening the Shepherd wanting something for his supper, went down to the fold and reaching in seized the first animal he came to mistaking the Wolf for a sheep, the Shepherd killed him on the spot. ¶¶¶

Moral: Appearances often are deceptive.


Group 3

In popular literature three positions are commonly found, which, though not equally unsatisfactory, turn out to be problematic. One often encounters the view that there is an underlying conflict between scientific and religious mentalities, the one dealing in testable facts, the other deserting reason for faith; the one relishing change as scientific understanding advances, the other finding solace in eternal verities. Where such a view holds sway, it is assumed that historical analysis provides supporting evidence – of territorial squabbles in which cosmologies constructed in the name of religion have been forced into retreat by more sophisticated theories coming from science. The nineteenth-century scholars J. W. Draper and A. D. White constructed catalogs of this kind, in which scientific explanations repeatedly challenged religious sensibilities, in which ecclesiastics invariably protested at the presumption, and in which the scientists would have the last laugh. (from: Brooke, J.H. (2014). Science and Religion: Some Historical Perspectives. Cambridge: Cambridge University Press. p. 2)

The Milkmaid and Her Pail

 A milkmaid was going to market carrying her milk in a Pail on her head. As she went along she began calculating what she would do with the money she would get for the milk. “I’ll buy some fowls from Farmer Brown,” said she, “and they will lay eggs each morning, which I will sell to the parson’s wife. With the money that I get from the sale of these eggs I’ll buy myself a new dimity frock and a chip hat; and when I go to market, won’t all the young men come up and speak to me! Polly Shaw will be that jealous; but I don’t care. I shall just look at her and toss my head like this. As she spoke she tossed her head back, the Pail fell off it, and all the milk was spilt. So she had to go home and tell her mother what had occurred.

Moral: Do not count your chickens before they are hatched.


Group 4

Typical was White’s account of the reluctance of the clergy to fix lightning rods to their churches. In 1745 the bell tower of St. Mark’s in Venice had once again been shattered in a storm. Within ten years, Benjamin Franklin had mastered the electrical nature of lightning. His conducting rod could have saved many a church from that divine voice of rebuke, which thunder had often been supposed to be. But White reported that such meddling with providence, such presumption in controlling the artillery of heaven, was opposed so long by clerical authorities that the tower of St. Mark’s was smitten again in 1761 and 1762. Not until 1766 was the conductor fixed – after which the monument was spared. White’s picture of religious scruples and shattered towers symbolizes the popular notion of an intrinsic and perennial conflict. An ounce of scientific knowledge could be more effective in controlling the forces of nature than any amount of supplication. (from: Brooke, J.H. (2014). Science and Religion: Some Historical Perspectives. Cambridge: Cambridge University Press. pp. 2-4)

The Fox and the Crow

 A fox once saw a Crow fly off with a piece of cheese in its beak and settle on a branch of a tree. “That‟s for me, as I am a Fox,” said Master Reynard, and he walked up to the foot of the tree. “Good-day, Mistress Crow,” he cried. “How well you are looking to-day: how glossy your feathers; how bright your eye. I feel sure your voice must surpass that of other birds, just as your figure does; let me hear but one song from you that I may greet you as the Queen of Birds.”

The Crow lifted up her head and began to caw her best, but the moment she opened her mouth the piece of cheese fell to the ground, only to be snapped up by Master Fox. “That will do,” said he. “That was all I wanted. In exchange for your cheese I will give you a piece of advice for the future: ‘Do not trust flatterers.’”


Group 5

A second, quite different view also appeals to history for its vindication. Science and religion are sometimes presented not as contending forces but as essentially complementary – each answering a different set of human needs. On this view, scientific and theological language have to be related to different spheres of practice. Discourse about God, which is inappropriate in the context of laboratory practice, may be appropriate in the context of worship, or of self-examination. Historical analysis is often invoked to support this case for separation because it can always be argued that the conflicts of the past were the result of misunderstanding. If only the clergy had not pontificated about the workings of nature, and if only the scientists had not been so arrogant as to imagine that scientific information could meet the deepest human needs, all would have been sweetness and light. (from: Brooke, J.H. (2014). Science and Religion: Some Historical Perspectives. Cambridge: Cambridge University Press. p. 4)

The Ass Eating Thistles

 An ass, laden with choice provision of several sorts, was on his way to the field. His master and the reapers were at work there, and the provision that he carried was for the entertainment of man and beast. Seeing a large, strong thistle by the roadside, he stopped to eat it. “Many people would wonder,” thought he, “that, with such dainty food upon my back, I should have appetite for the despised thistle; but to me the bitter, prickly weed has a more savory relish than anything else in the world. Let other choose what they will, but give me a fine, juicy thistle like this, and I will be content.”

Moral: One man’s meat may be another man’s poison.

Good luck!


  1. Group 3
    Septiana nainggolan
    Franky albert
    Bela tarigan

    The discussion result:
    Pada kesastraan populer ada 3 posisi yang biasanya ditemukan,yang mana sama-sama tidak memuaskan,berakhir dengan menjadi permasalahan.
    Sesekali menjumpai pandangan dimana ada sebuah konflik antara pandangan ilmiah dan mentalitas keagamaan .
    Yang satu berurusan dengan fakta yang sudah di uji,yang lain membelut dengan alasan kepercayaan iman.
    Satu sisi menikmati per hvubahn kemajuan ilmiah,sedangkan yang lain mencari kebenaran prnghiburan.
    Atas kebenaran yang kekal dimana Padangan seperti itu memegang kendali,diasumsikan bahwa analisis kesejarahan menetapkan bukti yang mendukung pada percecokan wilayah yang mana kosmologi yang diciptakan atas nama agama terpaksa mundur oleh teori2 yang lebih canggih yang datang dari ilmu pengetahuan.
    Pada abad ke 19,scholars J.W.Draper and A.D.White menciptakan katalog2 pada jenis ini.
    Yang mana penjelasan ilmiah berulang kali menentang keagamaan,yang mana pengkotbah selalu protes atas Sangkaan2 dan dimana para ilmuan yang akan menang.

    Si pemeras susu dan ember nya
    Seorang pemerah susu pergi ke pasar membawa susunya dengan menggunakan ember di kepalanya. Saat dia pergi dia mulai menghitung apa yang akan dia lakukan dengan uang yg ia dapatkan dari susu tersebut. “saya akan membeli beberapa burung burung dari petani” katanya” dan burung burung itu akan bertelur setiap pagi yang mana telur itu akan saya dijual kepada istri pendeta. Dengan uang yang saya dapatkan dari hasil penjualan telur telur ini saya akan membeli sebuah rok baru dan topi sendiri. Dan ketika aku pergi kepasar,tidak akan seorang pun anak muda datang dan berbicara kepada saya. Polly shaw akan cemburu tapi aku tak perduli aku hanya akan melihat dia dan membuang muka. Seperti apa yang dia katakan dia membuang mukannya ke belakang, ember itu terjatuh dan semua susunya tumpah. Sehingga dia harus pulang kerumah dan menberitahu ibunya apa yang telah terjadi.

    Moral: jangan menghitung ayam anda sebelum mereka menetas

  2. Group 1
    Morina F.S. (1412150016)
    Retta M.O. (1412150005)
    Herlialan P. (1412150019)
    Epelin T. (1412150018)

    The answers

    Dalam sebuah diskusi klasik tentang asal-usul ilmu pengetahuan modern, sejarawan Herbert Butterfield menarik persamaan sebuah kutipan. Seperti pada dampak Revolusi Ilmiah abad-ketujuhbelas bahwa satu-satunya tanda yang dapat dibandingkan adalah munculnya agama Kristen. Dalam pembentukan nilai-nilai masyarakat Barat, ilmu pengetahuan dan agama Kristen masing-masing telah memainkan peran penting dan membuat sebuah kesan abadi. Berlebihan atau tidak, perbandingan seperti ini menimbulkan pertanyaan yang jelas. Apakah ada hubungan antara tekanan budaya yang kuat ini? Apakah mereka saling melengkapi di dalam pengaruhnya, atau apakah mereka saling bertentangan? Apakah gerakan keagamaan membantu munculnya gerakan ilmiah, atau apakah ada perebutan kekuasaan sejak awal? Apakah keilmuwan dan keyakinan pada agama selalu bertentangan, atau apakah mereka mungkin lebih baik jika digabungkan saja, baik oleh pendeta dan oleh ilmuwan? Bagaimana perubahan yang terjadi dari waktu ke waktu?
    (sumber: Brooke, J.H. (2014). Science and Religion: Some Historical Perspectives. Cambridge: Cambridge University Press. p. 1)

    Tukang kebun dan anjingnya

    Anjing dari seorang tukang kebun jatuh ke dalam sumur yang dalam, sumur yang biasa digunakan tuannya untuk menimba air untuk menyiram tanaman-tanaman di kebunnya dengan tali dan ember. Gagal untuk mengeluarkan anjingnya dengan cara ini, si tukang kebun turun sendiri ke dalam sumur untuk mengangkatnya. Tapi si anjing berpikir tuannya datang untuk memastikan ia tenggelam; sehingga ia menggigit tuannya secepat yang ia bisa, dan menyakitinya menjadi sebuah pilihan yang baik, sehingga dia meninggalkan anjing tersebut karena peduli pada nasibnya dan keluar dari sumur, lalu mengatakan, “hal itu membuat saya benar dalam hal mencoba menyelamatkan diri saya daripada saya di anggap bunuh diri.”

    Pesan moral: “Jika seseorang sudah membantumu, berlaku baiklah kepadanya.”

  3. Group 2
    Yashinta T. Wulandari
    Ester Sihombing
    Cahaya Novita
    Alicia Beatrix

    1. Pertanyaan-pertanyaan yang muncul dari hasil perbandingan antara ilmu pengetahuan dan agama Kristen di budaya barat yaitu mereka lebih mudah untuk merumuskan daripada menjawab. Menurut ahli filsafat A.N Whitehead di beberapa tulisannya enam tahun lalu, dia menganggap bahwa ilmu sejarah di masa yang akan datang akan tergantung pada keputusan dari generasinya sebagai hubungan yang tepat antara ilmu pengetahuan dan agama, yang membuat keputusan itu menjadi kuat adalah simbol-simbol agama yang memberikan arti pada hidup mereka baik pria ataupun wanita dan juga hasil ilmiah yang membuat mereka bisa memanipulasi lingkungan mereka. Karena setiap generasi telah mengkaji ulang masalah yang ada, jika tidak akan selalu ada arti yang salah, dan masih ada pendapat yang kurang tentang seperti apa hubungan yang tepat yang seharusnya ada. (dari: Brooke, J.H. (2014). Science and Religion: Some Historical Perspectives. Cambridge: Cambridge University Press. pp. 1-2)

    2. Serigala berbulu domba
    Seekor serigala sedang bersembunyi di dekat kawanan domba selama beberapa hari. Tetapi dia sangat waspada kepada sang penggembala dan anjing setianya. Suatu hari serigala itu menemukan kulit domba yang sudah di kuliti dan di buang, kemudian dia memakai kulit itu di tubuhnya dan menyelinap diantara kawanan domba itu. Bahkan penggembala itu bisa tertipu olehnya. Pada malam hari serigala yang menyamar itu terkurung bersama kawanan domba. Malam itu, penggembala ingin berburu sesuatu untuk makan malamnya. Dia pergi ke tempat dimana banyak binatang bersembunyi. Dia melihat serigala berada dekat di kawanan dombanya dan mengira serigala itu ingin memakan dombanya, kemudian penggembala itu langsung membunuhnya saat itu juga.

    Nilai moral: Penampilan bisa menipu

  4. Group 4:
    Pricelia Atika S. Hutagalung
    Happy Sandiro S.
    Jessy D. Hutahaean
    Lidia Pangaribuan

    Hal yang identik adalah White tentang keengganan para pendeta dalam memperbaiki penangkal petir untuk gereja-gereja mereka. Pada 1745 menara lonceng St Mark di Venice telah hancur dalam badai. Dalam waktu 10 tahun, Benjamin Franklin mengusai sifat-sifat listrik dan petir. Dia melakukannya dengan menyelamatkan banyak gereja dari semua gemuruh yang sudah sering terjadi. Tapi White melaporkan bahwa campur tangannya tersebut dengan anggapan dalam mengendalikan artileri surga, di tentang begitu lama oleh otoritas pendeta bahwa menara St Markus runtuh lagi pada 1761 – 1762. Tidak sampai 1766 konduktor tetap memperbaiki – setelah monumen tersebut terhindar. Gambar White dari keraguan agama dan kehancuran menara melambangkan gagasan populer dari konflik dasar dan sebuah pengetahuan ilmiah abadi yang bisa lebih efektif kekuatannya pada alam dan setiap permohonan. (dari: Brooke, J.H (2014). Ilmiah dan Agama: Beberapa Perspektif Sejarah. Cambridge: Cambridge University Press. Pp.2-4)

    Seekor Rubah dan Burung Gagak
    Seekor rubah pernah melihat gagak terbang dengan sepotong keju di paruhnya dan menetap di sebuah cabang pohon. “Itu untuk saya, karna saya rubah, “kata Guru Reynard, dan dia berjalan ke kaki pohon. “Selamat siang, Nyonya Gagak, “teriaknya. “betapa terlihat baiknya engkau hari ini: betapa mengkilapnya bulu anda: betapa terangnya mata anda: saya yakin suara anda harus bisa melampaui segala jenis burung apapun dan biarkan saya mendengar kicauanmu sehingga sya dapat menyambut anda sebagai ratu burung! “
    Gagak mengangkat kepalanya dan mulai mengauknya dengan baik tapi saat dia membuka mulutnya dengan sepotong keju jatuh ke tanah. Dengan tersentak Guru Rubah. “Itu saya akan lakukan, “katanya.” Itu yang saya inginkan. Apabila kamu menukarkan keju kepada saya, saya akan memberikan nasihat “jangan percaya pengunjung”.

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